i wouldn't be surprised if dr. strange ended up being high tier, but then again i've been saying that for any new character that looks good.

i'm still playing the original game right now, but i still can't decide on a team to stick with, so right now i'm using haggar/taskmaster/spencer

MvC will never be balanced. If you want it to be like that, go play SSF4. (Not AE)

Firebrand = 1-combo wonder
Ghost Rider = 1-combo wonder BUT some bitchin-safe range
Strider = only good if he eats up all of the meter
Dr. Strange = Magneto 2
Hawkeye = Taskmaster 2
Nemesis = Hulk 2

Dr. Strange does look pretty beastly so far, and Ghost Rider doesn't 'look' it, but with dat range...

People keep saying Dr. Strange is magneto+ but does he even have an 8 way air dash? I keep watching the videos but I have yet to see him do one.

Dr. Strage looks like the character for people that wanted to play regular ass Jean Grey.

>>14611
just from the gameplay vids he seems a lot more like modok+ but with a good rushdown, also his level 3 is baller as fuck

Strange looks like he doesn't do all that great damage. And he's not going to be another Magnus; he completes the Storm/Mag trinity as the most defensive of the versatile humanoid Marvel flyers.

>>14658

His damage potential won't really be revealed until the game is out and people have time to explore his combos. While the info coming out of gamescom has said he isn't looking as powerful as he looked at first, I still think he'll be a very strong character.

His teleport honestly looks like one of the best in the game. Combine that with his projectiles and he'll be mixing people up all day.

http://shoryuken.com/2011/08/19/seth-killian-demos-doctor-strange-and-nemesis/

It looks like Strange won't have an 8 way air dash, but his other super "Rings of Ragador" is confirmed to be a projectile counter. It also looks like his level 3 has more range than I thought it would.

I can't say much about Nemesis other than he seems to hit really hard and his playstyle focuses on ground and wall bounces.

>>14688
Nemesis feels like a really slow Omega Red with a rocker launcher.

Dr. Strange is going to be fucking amazing

In particular his counter-teleport is going to demolish Ghost Rider, any time he tries to spam his full-screen chain you can counter on reaction and fuck him up. That's going to be an incredibly bad matchup.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs-2011/video.html?sid=6334346&pid=637240

http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs-2011/video.html?sid=6334345&pid=637240


Vergil is going to be a better Strider then Strider is.

  punch everything.

>>15328
Iron Fist looks like he'll be a decent character, but I think my favorite part about him right now is his animations and fighting style. He's like Shuma-Gorath where he's fun just to look at (OTG dropkick aw hell yeah).

So far I haven't been disappointed by any of these new characters, they all look fun to play as (to some degree).

Iron Fist is looking pretty Fei. He's got long range ways in, he makes Bruce Lee noises, he's so damn fast.


Vergil is looking like the more strategically technical Dante. Faster stand A and jump S by the looks of things, more teleports, a lower combo damage and priority than Dante, but more balanced overall. His assists, while some remain unreleased, they seem much worse than Dante's. Sword Super looks like a mini Oroboros. Godlike.

>>15330
Also, I'm not sure if this is a change for both of the twins, but Vergil's diveslash looks like a legitimate offensive tool.

 xoxo!stupidfaggot 09/14/11(Wed)22:18

yea his mini ouroboros looks really good, it even does chip unlike striders l0l

NOW IM MOTIVATED

 xoxo!stupidfaggot 09/14/11(Wed)22:19

  aa

>>15334
it looks like you won't be able to activate his level 3 unless you have his devil trigger active. i have no idea why they're doing this but it's definitely an interesting idea

leaked screenshot of nova in the game

and one with phoenix wright's health bar portrait, it's nothing much but i'll post it anyway

Who is vergil's VA it sounds so familiar

>>15344

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444534/

Two seconds, nigger.

>>15345
David Keeley was his DMC1 voice actor.

MvC3 uses DMC3 Virgil and kept the DMC3 voice actor, Dan Southworth.

I never played DMC 1-3 so I didn't know which to look for, thanks.

 Mu-san 無 10/13/11(Thu)09:28

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4UWv4qGIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJ9ahXtf_8

Nova
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qHIpusRAgQ

 MadRhetoric 10/13/11(Thu)09:54

>>15523

what the fuck

>>15523
>DAYS OF FUTURE PAST STAGE
ALL OF MY FUCKING MONEY, CAPCOM

ALL OF MY FUCKING MONEY.

>>15523
this is the silliest thing i've seen

i feel silly watching this

i can't believed i laughed so much at phoenix wright's trailer. that was ridiculous.

 Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:58

>>15523

>>15523
Capcom really did a great job on executing the idea of having Phoenix fight without actually fighting.

As enjoyable as that trailer was, I think I'm more excited for Nova than any of the other new characters save for maybe Rocket.

Here's some character breakdowns by Seth if anybody is interested. 21 minute mark is Phoenix Wright and 35 minute mark is Nova.

http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity/b/297396243

>>15530
I'm a fan of the Phoenix Wright games and I have to say they've made an incredibly faithful adaptation for UMvC3. They really got him spot on with his move set and different stances/modes, not to mention anybody who gets hit by his level 3 acts like any character in the PW games when they're found guilty.

As for Nova, I hardly know anything about him as a character, but with his strength and amount of moves that cause bouncing he looks like a powerhouse. I definitely want to try him out.

 Bears 10/13/11(Thu)22:39

  >>15523
S attack is a Sneeze, GET IT? ROFLMAO

Anyways this theme is Enigmas

so nova is basically captain commando?

Jill is getting NERFED? Shuma is basically unchanged? Come on, Capcom.

>>15535
What Seth said about Jill kind of bugs me too. "There's a lot of secret tech for her that nobody's discovered, and will make her really powerful, but it's being removed in Ultimate!"

I know the same thing is happening to Dr. Doom with the "secret tech", but Doom's also receiving buffs and he was already a good character. But hey, maybe Jill has some untapped power that nobody's discovered because she requires high execution.

>>15532
Fuuuuck I'm loving his theme song, and he looks like he'll be a good character too. I think my team for Ultimate might be Phoenix Wright/Hawkeye/Nova.

>>15537
Jill has amazing combo potential on point; but at the end of the day she's just an inferior Wesker. And even if there IS some kind of hidden potential within Jill then it would be better to leave her be until it's discovered; not outright nerf her ability.

Also, does anyone else think Nova's a bit...unoriginal?

I heard about his red bar mechanic which is interesting; but all his moves are just ripoffs of other character's moves.

http://kotaku.com/5850166/you-can-play-as-galactus-in-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3

i hope this isn't DLC like the unlimited hyper bar mode.

http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/10/15/nycc-umvc3-panel-reveals-heroes-and-heralds-mode.html

it sounds kind of like SFxT's gem system, except this one is going to be it's own separate mode. it might be fun.

>>15538

She had some crazy theory shit in XF3 Mad Beast mode that absolutely no one was able to use because of how uncontrollable she is at that point. Presumably if the metagame had progressed, someone would have managed to unlock that ability.

>>15561
but there's the thing, almost nobody played her because it was too hard to get her at full potential in such a short span of time. Maybe capcom is afraid she'll do too well in ultimate?

>>15565

If I recall, wasn't Magneto in MvC2 considered low tier for years until someone figured out a glitch or something? I dunno, I never played it, but perhaps Capcom saw this one coming and decided to head it off. I mean yeah, XF3 Mad Beast Jill is by far the fastest character in the entire game, and theoretically it's just a matter of time until someone learns how to take advantage of it. Apparently Capcom thinks it would be enough of an advantage to completely unbalance the game.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/10/21/umvc3_character_change_log_-_marvel_characters

>>15592
i think out of all those changes, captain america's is making me the most excited. everybody who's played him in UMvC3 has said that he's now incredibly viable, and having the L shield slash attack and assist OTG now just adds to his usefulness.

i can't wait for the official change log for the capcom characters. i want to see if hsien-ko and viewtiful joe get some decent buffs, since hardly anybody plays them i haven't heard much about them.

http://twitter.com/#!/sethkillian/status/127135738046332928

oh fuck, chun-li has an OTG now

>>15594

Fuck yeah, we need more thick thighs on stream, so I'm all for Chun buffs.

It's funny how she was considered the assist of choice until people figured out that Akuma existed.

I'm terrified of what these solid buffs can be becuase holy fuck level 3 xfactor chun is just aaaa.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/10/27/umvc3_character_change_log_-_capcom_characters/

it looks like viewtiful joe got some decent buffs, and tron can "cancel after throwing the rocks in bandit boulder", so does this mean she can extend her own combos with her OTG cr.H and bandit boulder now? the only thing cr.H can combo into is the bandit boulder, and in vanilla she can't do anything else after the boulder.

 Mu-san 無 10/31/11(Mon)10:26

  Frank West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwyV7ZQL7AI

Gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwcOx8unqyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP1Sx7ZVd3k

>>15625
damn capcom why you hate hsien-ko

>>15639
wow frank west looks like ass. assist looks pretty good though
not sure how i feel about rocket raccoon, he looks very mobile but not a lot of combo potential

So ROCKE-ROCKE-ROCKET SKATES is basically Mad Beast dash?

>>15641
i think he looks decent, but having to build up his strength might hurt him a little. from what i'm hearing the bigger your combo meter is the more "exp" you'll get when you take a picture, so i wonder how fast he'll be able to reach level 4.

>>15646
I saw a combo where he got them with a zombie, drank, did a combo and otg pictured and hit level 3 straight from 1. This raises the question of if you dhc does it avoid vomiting.

>>15647
i checked his thread on the srk forums earlier and from what i read it appears that you can avoid vomiting by dhc.

having a drawback for something that enhances a key part to west's gameplay is a given, but i don't think i would ever use the drink of it means giving my opponent a free combo.

The new guide should be available at gamestop today (the 8th).

Some aren't getting it until the 9th though so call ahead.

>>15653
motherfucker i just went to gamestop yesterday to pre-order

Last night the street date of the guide on the GS website jumped from 11/8 to 11/15. Friend of mine still got it early but people on SRK are reporting that stores that told them they could get it the 8th went back on it.

For the record, the guide is $13 on Amazon vs. $20 at GS.

oh neat, more DLC costumes

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32569974&postcount=1630
>Was messing around in the character viewer and noticed that Jill and Shuma-Gorath have their DLC outfits unlocked right from the start

if i'm getting these for free that would be pretty neat.

>>15639

I'm okay with rocket raccoon, odds are that I won't be able to play him worth a damn.

Fuck it. I'm mad and I don't give a shit.

And the Marvel side!

>Bionic Commando Rearmed Spencer

OHHHH YESSSS

>>15661

>Deadpool's alt is Cable-Pool

I'm in too-many-pouches heaven.

>>15662
YELLOW IRIS FUCK YEEEEAAAAAH

  Rare footage of Mike Ross actually cursing on camera. Shame they censor it.

  Spencer is an unholy god of war. Hawkeye is basically Taskmaster and She-Hulk in the same body.

Combofiend basically spotted Fanatiq a character with how terrible his Nemesis was, and it didn't even matter. Combofiend has already won Evo 2012.

>>15682
I'm loving Hawkeye right now, while the damage from most of his combos is lower than most characters, I feel he's more about hitting/chipping people to death with his arrows. Not to mention his Gimlet Hyper is FANTASTIC for punishing. The only problem I'm having with him right now is that his magic series is slightly different than most characters (you can't combo s.H into s.S) and I'm having trouble getting used to his corner OTG combo. You have to dash back, do QCB+L~L/M quickly enough to hit.

Nova's really cool too, but the timing for a j.S/throw into Centurion Rush L into your combo is a bit strict.

>>15683
nova isn't strict, his normals are all really "floaty" though, making it a bit awkward to do basic things like magic series at first

  I guess Combofiend's Spencer has Marn properly Vietnamese Punji Pited at this point???? Who Knew

But damn, look at those OCV's...

>>15687

FUCK THESE spooky scary skeletons WORDFIL LTERS

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>15688

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>15686
Yeah, I've been starting to get the hang of him now and I'm not having as much difficulty with his timing. The one thing I found awkward about his magic series at first was the delay from his j.S, I usually delay that on other characters so I can get to the ground quicker and follow up with more hits (like Taskmaster and Spencer), but with Nova you have to get that out as soon as possible or else you'll drop the combo. Thankfully Nova gets to the ground pretty quickly so you can follow it up with Nova Slam or Centurion Rush.

Also, Phoenix Wright's a bit fun once you get used to him. His normals are definitely bad, but I've caught plenty of people trying to hit me while I have the Maya Shield out, so from there I can hit them just fine. Once you get Turnabout mode he's ridiculous.

I've been messing around with some of the new characters and I'm running into the same problem I have with vanilla, I just can't decide on a team. I've been having fun with Ghost Rider and Nemesis so far. Maybe I could add Dorm into that and see what happens.

After trying out iron first and finding out that he's not that great, I was thinking that I wouldn't find a new dude I liked. But then I tried out nemesis, and oh man he is so good. Good control, huge presence and damage and those resets are fantastic.

http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

come watch my scene be bad

All in all, this feels like the most unchanged update release I've ever played.

I see the same characters, the same combos, the same damage, the same colors, the same assists, the same rage mail, the same everything.

But I've finally found a 3rd, so I'm happy.

>>15692
dont think you tried hard enough

>>15695
doesn't mean i'm good with him

Then someone jumps and ironfist gets really sad.

Gotta rely entirely on lockdown with him which has a huge payoff but still, who wants to put up with that. He even has good options to beat advance guard alone but he still doesn't do anything to airborne targets, which limits assists too.

Phoenix Wright's dog assist should henceforth be called "Hidden Missile"

please spread the word

peniss

  Can't keep Magnus down.

>>15700
>This video has been removed by the user
SRK pig go home

If you watched NEC, you could probably tell just how bad Ultimate is. Wesker is essential to every team's success, so he has become worse than Phoenix in a way. X-Factor and Wolverine are still big problems as well, so the only things that really got nerfed were Phoenix and invincible assists.

 Masaki 12/05/11(Mon)04:58

>>15737

word. only yipes can make this piece of shit game bearable

http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/05/niitsuma-tweets-about-umvc3-patch-coming-before-the-end-of-the-year/

Patches coming soon, Wesker may or may not be nerfed.

>>15737
first month wesker is naturally going to be better than first month anything else

i aint worried mang

as much as I hate fighting wesker once people crack open zero oh god I don't even want to imagine it nerf that fucker

http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/13/heroes__heralds:_the_online_campaign
http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/14/heroes__heralds:_the_offline_campaign
http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/15/heroes__heralds:_ability_card_spotlight_on_three_classic_capcom_characters
http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/28773325/Heroes__Heralds_Ability_Card_list

being released monday, supposedly with the patch mentioned here >>15744 as well.

RIP Phoenix Wright 2011-2011

>>15811

The least-necessary nerf since Jill. Why on earth...

Mephisto/Dr. Wily/Fin Fang Foom for constant X-Factor and HCG damage boosts. Who needs hyper combos when I can kill 75% of the cast with a simple BnB!

>>15811
It's pretty silly considering that his invincible assists in turnabout mode was the only redeeming quality he had imo. The Maya shield supposedly comes out a little faster now so that's nice.

>>15816
Having the invincible assists was the only good reward for turnabout. The fingers are pretty good just because how obnoxious they are but you cant mixup with them. When you could sit on phoenix's level 3 with invuln assists he made your team deadly as fuck and now he's half that now.

Honestly it probably wasn't good to have phoenix roam around with only near guaranteed win matchups and unwinnable matchups but making him fairly useless in general probably wasn't the best answer.

Nobody should have to suffer playing Wright anyway, now they have no reason to. It was a mercy nerfing.

S: Viper, Zero, Firebrand, Dante, Wesker

A:Strider, Doom, Dorm, Magneto

A-:Nova, Felicia, Jill, Hawkeye, Trish, Spencer, Wolverine

B:Akuma, Ryu, Ammy, Morrigan, Sentinel, V.Joe, X23, Captain America, Phoenix, Storm, TaxMaster, Spider-Man

B-: Thor, Hulk, Chris, Deadpool, MODOK, Rocket Raccoon, Skrull, Strange, Frank

C:Vergil, Haggar, Iron Man, Chun-Li, Iron Fist, Arthur, Nemesis, Ghost Rider, She-Hulk,

F:Tron, Shuma, Pheonix Wright, Hsien-Ko

Half of this doesn't make sense, but there you go.

>>15848
I thought Dante dropped one tier because he was nerfed, otherwise:
>Thor, MODOK and Rocket Raccoon in B tier and above Vergil
>Jill in A tier
>Firebrand in S tier

I don't have a problem with any of this but I find it really unexpected, I guess everybody found out some characters were surprisingly better/worse than they thought in the time I didn't pay attention to the UMvC3 scene. Or the list is bullshit, whichever!

>>15854
isnt vergil c tier because all of his normals have really awful recovery when blocked

>>15855
That would be understandable since that seemed to be one of his bigger weaknesses (besides his low health and being a bit of a meter hog). I thought I heard there was a way to make his normals much safer with some of his specials, but I guess that doesn't work.

Vergils assists suck and he's a bad meter builder so he really just can't find a cozy spot on a team. On top of his normals being unsafe.

>>15848
A few people from B (tasky and pheonix at least) should be moved up, and C and B tier should be combined. Even though the higher tiers are pretty dumb a lot of the lower guys compete just fine, and really aren't better enough then each other to make them a tier lower.

>>15855
Can't he cancel his normals into his sword ring super even when blocked? Which not only puts him in safe position, it stops the enemy from moving in?

His assists DO suck, though. Meter hogging only applies to his level 3 set up, otherwise, he's as much of a meter hog as Wesker.

I never though he was as broken as most people said, but I never though he was C tier bad.

B or something...

>>15860
Yeah he can, but having to use a whole meter to be safe whereas dante just needs to hit att + s which also puts him on the offensive. His rapid slash assist is actually quite good however, especially when he's in devil trigger.